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Email from Cliff Rogers to Colin Jenner, "Constable Moate", 2 September 2006



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  • Title Email from Cliff Rogers to Colin Jenner, "Constable Moate", 2 September 2006 
    Author Cliff Rogers 
    Call Number F0013 
    Repository FH document folders 
    Source ID S427 
    Text colllnionnor
    From: Cliff Rogers [oerogers@btintemetoom]
    Sent: 02 September 2006 13:45
    To: oollinjenner?supanetoom
    Cc: Leach Mike
    Subject: Constable Moan.
    Hello Colin,
    I am afraid that I cannot add anything further to Barry's comments, The title British
    South Africa Police was used from 1896 to 1980, it was the police force for Southern
    Rhodesia. The short time that Constable Moate was in the police almost certainly meant
    he was still in depot under training. The normal period of training being five months,
    however this was shortened on occasions so I cannot be sure. It is possible the
    incident that caused death occurred in the then Salisbury,(Harare). We have a
    regimental journal which in many cases publishes obituaries of persons that died in
    service but Moate does not appear on the index. If you wanted to you could hire a
    local researcher to look at Moate's papers which would exist but they would not tell
    you much. Another source would be papers related to the inquest .
    Regards,
    Cliff Rogers.
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    colllnlonner
    From: Clifl Rogers [cero9ers@btintemetoom]
    Sent: 02 September 2006 19:46
    To: oollinjenner
    Subject: Re: Constable Moate.
    Hello Colin,
    Your questions are not easy for me to answer, the one on inquests, I would imagine
    that the records are still available but you would need the assistance of a local
    researcher. Enquiring from outside Zimbabwe is a non starter, they have a very
    defensive mentality about divulging the most mundane material. One possibility, do you
    reside in or near London ?, the British Library Newspapers Collection at Colindale may
    have copies of the Rhodesia Hereld for the period and that may have an entry. The date
    given for the end of his service was 8th April 1949 so a search for a few weeks after
    that may reveal something. No guarantees.
    On where he would be serving, if still in training he would have been located in the
    Training Depot in Salisbury (Harare). Each man would have had his own rifle and
    ammunition was plentiful, I myself always had a spare 50 rounds for personal use,
    shooting game for the pot, etc. Did Moate have previous military training, how old was
    he when he died. These would be factors to be taken into consideration. The training
    was no walk over and some people could no hack it.If someone was lonely or had a
    history of depression,etc, it would be easy to end things. But we are junping ahead
    here it could have been an accidental discharge of a firearm tha caused his death..
    Sorry I cannot be more useful to you.
    Regards,
    Cliff Rogers.
    Linked to (1) Moate, Anthony Leon 

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